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Title: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: barry guerrero on April 29, 2007, 05:25:02 PM

What's the big deal, you ask. Yes, Haitink will be his usual, slightly dull, poker-faced self. But finally, we're going to hear the CSO unload (bad choice of words) at the climactic passage of the slow movement - the big brass chorale - without Levine's sudden speed-up at the cymbal crash, or Solti's usual fast tempi (at the wrong places) and course, ugly sound. This might be the real deal, as the short excerpts at the CSO website sound promissing. We'll see.

Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: Leo K on April 29, 2007, 06:05:20 PM

I also await with much anticipation!!

Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 29, 2007, 07:33:17 PM

Quote from: barry guerrero on April 29, 2007, 05:25:02 PM

Yes, Haitink will be his usual, slightly dull, poker-faced self.

This porridge is too cold (Haitink). That porridge is too hot (Abbado). Which porridge is just right? I watched Tennstedt lead the CSO in M1 (DVD, 1990 performance) last night. Maybe he was just right. But the orchestra looked about as involved as corpses can be.

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Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: Leo K on April 29, 2007, 09:18:30 PM

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But the orchestra looked about as involved as corpses can be.

This is a good thing actually  :)

Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 29, 2007, 11:43:23 PM

For funerals, maybe.

Perhaps it is better not to watch. Should we add orchestras to legislatures and charcuteries as things best not seen?  :-\

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Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: Leo K on April 30, 2007, 01:50:01 AM

I've always preferred not to buy DVD's of performances as there is always some distraction...bad editing is such a turn-off. 

Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: barry guerrero on April 30, 2007, 05:25:00 AM

OK, OK; but my point is simply that Haitink's new M3 just might build to a tremendous climax in the last movement - giving the symphony a greater sense of purpose than it sometimes has. For that much, I'll happily sacrifice a bit of visceral excitement earlier on. But, we need to wait and see.

Title: Re: nine days away from Haitink/CSO M3 (and counting)
Post by: John Kim on May 04, 2007, 10:21:57 PM

The Japanese fans gave 85/100 to this new release:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2551159

John,