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Title: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: John Kim on June 21, 2011, 08:24:53 PM
Gustav Mahler 1860-1911

Symphony No.1 in D

I           Langsam. Schleppend – Immer sehr gemächlich 15.57

II          Kräftig bewegt, doch nicht zu schnell – Trio: Recht gemächlich 8.11

III        Feierlich und gemessen, ohne zu schleppen 11.41

IV         Stürmisch bewegt 23.11

23.11 for the Finale!! :o ???

Looks like Giulini followed Horenstein's footsteps in this concert.

John,
Title: Re: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: Roffe on June 22, 2011, 04:58:34 AM
Tennstedt's CSO DVD isn't directly fast either
I: 17.55, II: 8.33, III: 11.50, IV: 24.21, T.T. : 1h02.3

He "beats" Giulini with over a minute in the finale.

Roffe
Title: Re: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: James Meckley on June 22, 2011, 06:50:39 AM
And five years before Giulini's 1976 Berlin recording on Testament, his Mahler 1 timings in Chicago were:

16:46
08:00
11:22
20:52

It's likely that applause makes up some portion of the 23:11 attributed to the Finale on the Testament disc.

James
Title: Re: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: James Meckley on June 22, 2011, 07:21:23 AM
Quote from: Roffe on June 22, 2011, 04:58:34 AM
Tennstedt's CSO DVD isn't directly fast either

I: 17.55, II: 8.33, III: 11.50, IV: 24.21, T.T. : 1h02.3

He "beats" Giulini with over a minute in the finale.


Yeah, that's what the box says, but that's the total time for the track. Tennstedt actually takes 21:27 to play the Finale—the rest of the time is accounted for by "curtain calls" and closing credits. I didn't remember his Finale being nearly that distended.

James
Title: Re: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: Roffe on June 22, 2011, 09:10:17 AM
Sorry, I forgot to check applause and "curtain calls". 21½ minutes seem a bit more reasonable.

Roffe
Title: Re: Timings for Giulini/BPO/Testament M1st CD
Post by: John Kim on June 22, 2011, 03:43:11 PM
As much as I like the Horenstein I hope Giulini had taken his time with the Finale of M1st.

I do love the broad approach to this movt.

John,