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Title: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Russ Smiley on January 22, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
Amazon reports "This title will be released on February 23, 2010"
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: John Kim on January 23, 2010, 03:14:34 AM
Amazon reports "This title will be released on February 23, 2010"
So, this means Zinman's M9th is not too far in the future ;D :D.

John,
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Zoltan on January 25, 2010, 12:50:46 PM
Amazon reports "This title will be released on February 23, 2010"
So, this means Zinman's M9th is not too far in the future ;D :D.
John,

Feb. 19 for Germany! I for one am waiting for the Eighth more anxiously to the Ninth! ;)

Couldn't find any info on the soloists though ...
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Steele on January 28, 2010, 01:16:29 AM
Tonhalle Orchestra Zurich
Schweizer Chamber Choir
WDR Rundfunkchor Köln
David Zinman, conductor
Melanie Diener, soprano
Lisa Larsson, soprano
Juliane Banse, soprano
Birgit Remmert, mezzo-soprano
Yvonne Naef, mezzo-soprano
Anthony Dean Griffey, tenor
Stephen Powell, baritone
Askar Abdrazakov, bass

Best,

Steele
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Russ Smiley on January 28, 2010, 04:33:20 AM
This is an odd cover (maybe an "equal opportunity" response to the M5 cover?):

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3719766
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: 2gus4tav on January 28, 2010, 04:36:32 PM
Anthony Dean Griffey again?  I know I'll buy this anyway, but aren't there other tenors that are MUCH better suited for this piece?  Does he offer discount coupons on his fee if they choose him to perform M8? 
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Phaedrus on March 07, 2010, 03:16:11 PM
Hi everybody,

Release in the Netherlands postponed until March 29th.
Best regards,

Phaedrus
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: brunumb on March 07, 2010, 11:22:04 PM
Presto in the UK have this listed for release on 5th April.

http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/RCA/88697579262

Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Phaedrus on March 27, 2010, 01:58:24 PM
Hi everybody,

Final word: In the stores from April 2nd.
Best regards,

Phaedrus
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: barry guerrero on March 27, 2010, 05:33:03 PM
That's strange because Alliance - our distributor for Sony/BMG - shows a date much later in April. There seem to be different dates posted all over the place. I guess it shows when it shows.
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Russ Smiley on March 27, 2010, 05:39:27 PM
I pre-ordered mine from Amazon.  They claim the release date is 27 April.
$13.99 didn't seem like too much to pay in advance of sampling parts of it.
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Zoltan on April 08, 2010, 03:12:20 PM
My CD just got shipped from jpc.de and (some) samples are finally available (only Part 1): Listen here (http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Gustav-Mahler-Symphonie-Nr-8/hnum/9796917).

Slow tempi in Part 1 (all of them). Good organ (great pedal in track 4). The A-flat bells one octave higher than usual. Choirs are louder than the orchestra at "Accende ...".

Update: amazon.de has samples from Part 2 as well: Listen here (http://www.amazon.de/Mahler-Sinfonie-Nr-8-Gustav/dp/B00343MIMS).

Relaxed tempi in Part 2 as well. Instrumental detail is noticeable. For opinion about the soloists I will have to hear them in full (I'm quite picky there); the choirs seem to sing very good.

More when I listened to the whole recording.
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Russ Smiley on April 09, 2010, 03:42:04 AM
Having listened to samples, I don't have that same eager anticipation that followed sampling M6 and M7.
Anyone do and feel likewise?
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: barry guerrero on April 09, 2010, 07:50:44 AM
It's difficult to tell much from these samples, especially since you don't get to hear the ending to either part. The tempi seem pretty sensible, and there's the usual attention to balances and phrasing from Zinman. From what little there is here, it sounds as though it's not the strongest cast ever assembled. Pater Ecstaticus seems to sound quite a bit better than Pater Profundus. Also, Anthony Dean Griffey is a big turn-off to me. I don't like him on the MTT/SFSO M8 at all. Frankly, I'd rather suffer through Vinson Cole (Schwarz/Seattle). At least he sounds more genuine, and less limp wristed than Griffey. But hey, I've certainly been fooled by these brief excerpts before.

Barry
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: barry guerrero on April 10, 2010, 02:40:31 PM
Zoltan!,

Let's get going on this. Aufgehts! Forget about the singers - they're a necessary evil. Besides, we know that A. Dean Griffey isn't the best. Tell us about the ending to Part II.
Title: Re: Zinman M8 SACD
Post by: Russ Smiley on April 20, 2010, 11:19:16 PM
Having listened to samples, I don't have that same eager anticipation that followed sampling M6 and M7.
Anyone do and feel likewise?

What a difference sample source makes.  I've listened again to JPC M8 Samples (http://JPC M8 Samples) and Amazon.de M8 Samples (http://Amazon.de M8 Samples) and get a completely different (positive) feeling about this M8 recording listening to the JPC site vs. the German Amazon site.  Not only are the Amazon samples at different places (e.g. Part II No. 14), they are much more 'dense'.  The JPC samples are open and have more clarity.  Lesson learned: I won't put too much stock in the samples any more.