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Title: What is this?
Post by: GL on April 15, 2010, 09:03:34 AM
What is this?

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Gustav-Mahler-1860-1911-Recomposed-By-Matthew-H/hnum/1121525

http://www.amazon.de/Recomposed-Matthew-Herbert-Mahler-Sinfonie-10/dp/B003F0NFPO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1271321747&sr=1-1

And I thought to know everything about Mahler discography...
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: barry guerrero on April 15, 2010, 09:22:33 AM
Looks like an "April Fools" joke, doesn't it?   ???  Whatever it is, they dragged Sinopoli's name into it.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Fafner on April 15, 2010, 10:03:05 AM
Looks like an "April Fools" joke, doesn't it?   ???  Whatever it is, they dragged Sinopoli's name into it.



Sinopoli was clearly against every attempt to complete, let alone recompose Mahler's Tenth and it made that clear on several interviews. Quite sure it's a joke...
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: chris on April 15, 2010, 03:13:50 PM
Very odd...

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=11790
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: GL on April 15, 2010, 05:47:13 PM
Very odd...

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=11790


I would say ghastly...
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: James Meckley on May 20, 2010, 06:04:24 AM
Here's a link to a YouTube video related to this topic, in which Matthew Herbert attempts to explain his Symphony X project:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnvaFOxkVzs

Having viewed it, I'm not sure I understand much more than before about his motives. Apparently the late Giuseppe Sinopoli figures in because Mr. Herbert used Sinopoli's recording of the 10/i Adagio as the raw material for this absurd undertaking (pardon the pun).

James
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: barry guerrero on May 20, 2010, 06:21:57 AM
Yikes, that may be THE SLOWEST version of M10/I ever. Isn't it something like 32 minutes?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: James Meckley on May 20, 2010, 06:49:43 AM
Yikes, that may be THE SLOWEST version of M10/I ever. Isn't it something like 32 minutes?


Yes, it's 32:47.

I suspect the whole thing is a put-on. Given the project described in the video, it's hard to imagine DG having any interest at all, or Dr. Sinopoli's estate granting permission—if permission was required. I smell Dada. (Has a neo-Dada movement emerged?)

James
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: BeethovensQuill on May 20, 2010, 07:39:30 PM
This made me laugh or something, maybe if he'd actually got a coffin to record it in, it would have had a resonance instead of a cardbox or something, the bit where he said "in Mahler's time if he wanted to write about loniless he'd maybe write a melody like that, whereas now if we want to record or write about loniless we can write a melody like that and take it to the top of a very high mountain or something.  The bit just before that when he said when Mahler wants to write about bird song its the flute and pretended to play a flute, and told us correctly that indeed that was a simulation whereas now and for my generation the possibilities in the 20th century, you take a microphone and you record the birdsong, that was funny. 

This guy is hysterical or something, surely its a wind up or something.  ;D
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: James Meckley on May 20, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
...maybe if he'd actually got a coffin to record it in, it would have had a resonance instead of a cardbox or something...


I believe the cardboard box in the video is a container used to house the body during cremation. Why Herbert would use that rather than a real coffin is just one of the many mysteries surrounding this project. Perhaps that was all his budget would allow. After all, real coffins ain't cheap, though I suppose he could have rented one.

James