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Title: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Nathaniel on February 15, 2012, 09:55:17 PM

http://www.heliconclassics.com/9656/

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: barry guerrero on February 16, 2012, 07:44:53 AM

Am I wrong, or are these Bernstein's most radical timings yet? Look at the contrast between the Rondo-Burlesque and the adagio finale! Can't imagine that the playing - and maybe even the sound - could compete with that famous Bernstein/BSO M9.

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Nathaniel on February 16, 2012, 09:32:30 AM

This performance has no common ground with Tanglewood (which was the same year as BPO and timings are probably much closer). If anything, timings and mood are much closer to the RCO (few months earlier, in June of the same year) but the performance here is even more extreme. The playing is actually superb, and you forgive some brass fuck-ups in the second movement because the overall effect is so draining. The sound is very good. It's a fantastic live recording.

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: John Kim on February 16, 2012, 08:46:29 PM

Nathaniel,

Where can I order this?? ???

Thanks.

John,

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Nathaniel on February 17, 2012, 12:49:56 AM

I got my copy from Helicon Classics, but it's not out yet. It's distributed through Harmonia Mundi and should be available in a few weeks :)

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Michael on February 17, 2012, 01:23:27 AM

That's the first time I've seen a 30+ minute timing for the Finale!  Note to self: Keep an eye out for this one, too.

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: James Meckley on February 17, 2012, 01:38:20 AM

Quote from: Michael on February 17, 2012, 01:23:27 AM

That's the first time I've seen a 30+ minute timing for the Finale!

The timing may be inflated by applause, given that this is a live recording. The longest one I know of is Levine/Philadelphia at 29:50.

James

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: John Kim on February 17, 2012, 05:58:52 AM

Quote from: Nathaniel on February 17, 2012, 12:49:56 AM

I got my copy from Helicon Classics, but it's not out yet. It's distributed through Harmonia Mundi and should be available in a few weeks :)

Did you order it directly from Helicon?

John,

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Nathaniel on February 17, 2012, 05:47:50 PM

No.....I received a complimentary copy :) I'm not sure you can order cd's directly from Helicon, but I believe it should be available in stores and online soon.

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: John Kim on February 17, 2012, 07:03:32 PM

Quote from: Nathaniel on February 17, 2012, 05:47:50 PM

No.....I received a complimentary copy :) I'm not sure you can order cd's directly from Helicon, but I believe it should be available in stores and online soon.

Nathaniel,

I sent you a personal message. PL check it and reply to me. ;)

Thanks.

John

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: Nathaniel on February 20, 2012, 04:47:43 PM

John -- if you'd like to order it from Israel, it's already available online:

http://www.israel-music.com/israel_philharmonic_orchestra/mahler_symphony_no_9/

Please let me know your impressions.

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: John Kim on February 20, 2012, 09:33:45 PM

Thanks for the info., Nathaniel.

John,

Title: Re: Mahler 9 Bernstein IPO live 1985
Post by: hrandall on May 05, 2012, 01:03:20 AM

This Mahler No. 9 by Bernstein / Israel Philharmonic will be available from Amazon US on June 12:

http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-Israel-Philharmonic-Orchestra/dp/B007FHNSF0/

Cheers,
Herb