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Title: this appears to be 'definitive' as to how many strokes M. Honeck used
Post by: barry guerrero on August 23, 2012, 11:22:05 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/ae/music/pounding-out-the-right-beat-for-mahler-643771/?print=1

Maybe we already settled this - I don't remember.
Title: Re: this appears to be 'definitive' as to how many strokes M. Honeck used
Post by: hrandall on August 24, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Does anyone know the measure numbers where all five hammer strikes were first indicated?

Cheers,
Herb
Title: Re: this appears to be 'definitive' as to how many strokes M. Honeck used
Post by: James Meckley on August 24, 2012, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: hrandall on August 24, 2012, 05:41:08 PM
Does anyone know the measure numbers where all five hammer strikes were first indicated?


The original five hammer blows were indicated in measures 9, 336, 479, 530, and 783.

The two "official" hammer blows occur in measures 336 and 479.

BTW, my sources tell me there will be just two hammer blows in the forthcoming Pittsburgh M6 recording.

James
Title: Re: this appears to be 'definitive' as to how many strokes M. Honeck used
Post by: barry guerrero on August 25, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
"my sources tell me there will be just two hammer blows in the forthcoming Pittsburgh M6 recording."

Do you know if they're still sticking to Honeck's idea of waiting until they get to the Musikverein - a terrible idea, in my opinion - or are they going to issue from one of the two-stroke concerts from Heniz Hall (or edit from both two-stroke concerts)?
Title: Re: this appears to be 'definitive' as to how many strokes M. Honeck used
Post by: James Meckley on August 25, 2012, 02:15:51 AM
I didn't ask about this specifically, but I have no reason to think their plans to use the Musikverein have changed. I don't believe using any of the Heinz Hall material is an option—the Exton crew would've had to have been there, and I'm told that was not the case.

James