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Title: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 12, 2008, 09:05:56 PM
At last it is in hand (or hands, for it weigh almost five pounds).

This great book provides a wonderful hunting ground--open it anywhere and you will likely be rewarded. The appendices alone amount to 438 pages, filled with a wide range of material, ending with recipes for Mahler's favorite dessert, apricot dumplings. Note also the interesting contribution by Teng-Leong Chew (president of the Chicago Mahler Society) on Chinese poetry in Appendix 1Ba, "Das Lied von der Erde."

This publication is, obviously, a major addition to the Mahler shelf. Any other readers in the group?

     . & '
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Leo K on April 12, 2008, 09:30:53 PM
Yep, I've been skipping around this huge book for awhile now...it is very rewarding indeed! 

This morning I was reading the interesting connections between Mahler, Alma and Mark Twain's family, especially his daughter Clara Twain...since Alma had a brief flirtation with Clara's husband (a pianist and conducter...can't remember his name). 

And the appendixes, especially on the 9th Symphony, is worth the price of admission.

--Todd
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: barry guerrero on April 14, 2008, 08:17:41 AM
Alma had brief flirtations with pretty much anybody - and everybody -  in trousers who crossed her path. That really almost is not an exaggeration.

I've been sneaking peeks into a copy of Vol. 4 that's sitting at the University Press Bookstore, right next to where I work in Berkeley on Thursday/Friday. I've yet to find my own name in it, which is fine by me. At $140 - even with a decent discount percentage - I simply can't afford to buy it.

Barry
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Leo K on April 14, 2008, 03:08:04 PM
Barry,

You are mentioned on pages 1487 (starting near the footnotes) and 1488.  Don't miss the footnote #159 on page 1487  :)


Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 14, 2008, 06:01:52 PM
At $140 - even with a decent discount percentage - I simply can't afford to buy it.

Barry

Who can?? How many copies do they sell at that price, I wonder. In anticipation of such a price, I took advantage of the Amazon.com guarantee of a prepublication price if ordered before it was released. And, by golly, it worked, and came to me for $42.34. As Grandfather said in Little  Big Man, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. This time it worked.

I now see that it is available from Amazon.com for $100.80, or slightly damaged for $75.88. That's still painfully high, I think.

What does it go for in the UK? It doesn't show up on the Canadian Amazon site.

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Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Polarius T on April 15, 2008, 12:48:15 PM
At $140 - even with a decent discount percentage - I simply can't afford to buy it.

Barry

Who can?? How many copies do they sell at that price, I wonder. In anticipation of such a price, I took advantage of the Amazon.com guarantee of a prepublication price if ordered before it was released. And, by golly, it worked, and came to me for $42.34. As Grandfather said in Little  Big Man, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. This time it worked.

I now see that it is available from Amazon.com for $100.80, or slightly damaged for $75.88. That's still painfully high, I think.

What does it go for in the UK? It doesn't show up on the Canadian Amazon site.

    . & '

Damaged copies for GBP 30, new ones from GBP 50 (double that for approximate USD equivalent). I'm waiting for better prices, too.

PT
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: James Meckley on April 15, 2008, 05:58:50 PM
I'm waiting as well. I managed to get remaindered copies of volumes II and III (in perfect condition) from Edward R. Hamilton, the bookseller in Connecticut, for $19.95 each. He no longer has them in stock.

James Meckley
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 15, 2008, 07:32:44 PM
I'm waiting as well. I managed to get remaindered copies of volumes II and III (in perfect condition) from Edward R. Hamilton, the bookseller in Connecticut, for $19.95 each. He no longer has them in stock.

James Meckley

Well done, James! Every now and then one or more of the earlier volumes will show up on eBay. I see that a copy of Vol. I is offered on ABE for $40. Still pricey, I think.

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Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: mike bosworth on April 18, 2008, 02:32:27 AM
Alma had brief flirtations with pretty much anybody - and everybody -  in trousers who crossed her path. That really almost is not an exaggeration.

The person in question (in this instance) was Ossip Gabrilowitsch.

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I've been sneaking peeks into a copy of Vol. 4 that's sitting at the University Press Bookstore, right next to where I work in Berkeley on Thursday/Friday. I've yet to find my own name in it, which is fine by me. At $140 - even with a decent discount percentage - I simply can't afford to buy it.

My copy of Vol. 4 set me back $ 83.00.

At the same time I have been impressed by the coverage of Barry's ideas for a PV of M10 contained in Perspectives on Gustav Mahler (ed. Jeremy Barham--see the article by Franz Bouwman on M10).  This is another rather bulky tome, but much more of an 'academic' read and also not especially cheap--I finally found a copy for $ 75 (it routinely is found listed at US $ 150 or more, eg on the ABE site).

Mike Bosworth
Hanoi

P.S. I'm preparing to attend M6 here in Hanoi on April 26th (Vietnam National Symphony under T. Honna), and M1 on April 28th (Hanoi Philharmonic under Wolfgang Groehs).
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: barry guerrero on April 19, 2008, 07:37:48 AM
I'm not sure that Bouwman quoted me accurately on my "ideas", but that's OK. I'm certain I've said all kinds of nonsense over the years that I simply don't remember now. I do have plenty of ideas, but no money or time to work on them. That time and place will arrive someday, I believe.  I want to fully digest the S/M version first - in excruciating detail. Then I'll decide if I want to try to tackle this or not. I'm pretty unhappy with the first scherzo as it exists now. At the very least, Hurwitz and I could come up with far, far more idiomatic percussion parts. We both have had plenty of practice with just that. And that would be a decent contribution, just in itself. We'll see.

I'm sort of embarrassed, because I'm really am caught in kind of a bad time right now - both work wise, and personally.

Barry
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Freddy van Maurik on April 19, 2008, 08:14:29 AM

At the same time I have been impressed by the coverage of Barry's ideas for a PV of M10 contained in Perspectives on Gustav Mahler (ed. Jeremy Barham--see the article by Franz Bouwman on M10).  This is another rather bulky tome, but much more of an 'academic' read and also not especially cheap--I finally found a copy for $ 75 (it routinely is found listed at US $ 150 or more, eg on the ABE site).


Mike, could you tell me wether you found this $ 75 priced 'Perspectives' online? And if so, where? I'd really like to obtain a copy, but $ 150 is way too much for me?
Thanks!
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Jot N. Tittle on April 19, 2008, 07:53:01 PM
Freddy--

I found mine (for about $85, I think--but the cheapest at the time) on Amazon.com, who lists it; search there for it and check the "used and new" listings for that title. I see that the same seller that I got  mine from (Bookmonger.Ltd) now offers a "used" one for $69. Mine was also listed as used but it was a new copy. You might check with them to see what the condition actually is. Good luck.

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Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: mike bosworth on April 21, 2008, 03:53:53 AM

I found mine (for about $85, I think--but the cheapest at the time) on Amazon.com, who lists it; search there for it and check the "used and new" listings for that title. I see that the same seller that I got  mine from (Bookmonger.Ltd) now offers a "used" one for $69. Mine was also listed as used but it was a new copy. You might check with them to see what the condition actually is. Good luck.

I also got mine from the seller 'Bookmonger', who had listed it as 'used' at Amazon.com.  It turned out to be a new, perfectly clean copy with only one or two very minor scuffs on the dust cover.

Mike Bosworth
Title: Re: de La Grange Volume 4
Post by: Freddy van Maurik on April 21, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
Thanks! I'll go for this one!