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Title: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: nickmolland on July 15, 2009, 08:23:21 AM
Good morning all

Does anyone know where this can be downloaded in lossless format or, better yet, bought? Google brings up a lot of possible sites, all of which look a bit dodgy (ie offering to put one in touch with uninhibited young women!), so any advice would be welcome!

Apologies if this has been raised before, but I couldn't see it.

Cheers

Nick
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: mahlerei on July 16, 2009, 12:18:32 AM
Hi Nick

Is this what you're looking for?

http://media.rnw.nl/en/production/1075
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: John Kim on July 16, 2009, 03:53:41 AM
Hi Nick

Is this what you're looking for?

http://media.rnw.nl/en/production/1075
Wow :o

So, is this set finally for sale for everyone? I thought it was a limited release...??

How much is it?


John
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: mahlerei on July 16, 2009, 09:40:40 AM
John

Ah, I see what you mean. If you attempt to order it assumes you are a radio station rather than a private individual....
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: nickmolland on July 16, 2009, 10:07:50 AM
Indeed it does, unfortunately.... still, someone has very kindly offered to supply me with the lossless files on a dvd-r -
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Cheers

Nick
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: John Kim on July 16, 2009, 05:07:22 PM
As I recall, all were pretty good but the jewels of this Mahler cycle were M3 (Haitink), M4 (Mutti), M7 (Rattle), and M9 (Abbado). I could take them over any commercial recordings of these works.

Good luck!

John,
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: barry guerrero on July 16, 2009, 05:30:36 PM
Was the 9th performed by Abbado/BPO? I thought it was Chailly/RCOA (?).
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: Ben on July 16, 2009, 05:59:50 PM
Was the 9th performed by Abbado/BPO? I thought it was Chailly/RCOA (?).

It is indeed Abbado/BPO.  Chailly/RCOA got M1 and M8. 

I enjoy this set quite a bit - it has some great live performances.  I think this is a great way to present a Mahler cycle at a festival.  You can get very strong performances all around and it doesn't fall to one orchestra to put on the entire festival.  While I think it was a cool idea what the Berlin Staatskapelle did recently in NYC, it just seems that it is too taxing and difficult to perform a Mahler cycle in a short time with one orchestra.  Now I love the Berlin Staatskapelle because of the energy/verve they bring to the table and their tonal characteristics, but they can also be a bit riskier in performance.  From what I read, there were quite a few mistakes/tired playing during their Mahler cycle.  While mistakes happen, if they become too frequent, it is distracting.

I also see the Royal Concertgebouw is celebrating the Mahler anniversary by performing all the symphonies over the next two years, but bringing in different conductors. 
http://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/Mahlerindex.aspx?pageid=82&mode=&version= (http://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/Mahlerindex.aspx?pageid=82&mode=&version=) 
Seems like it should be interesting.  I hope they record them and at least make them available via download, if not actual CDs.

Ben
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: barry guerrero on July 16, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
Looks to be a pretty good line-up. You can expect Maazel to be slow and heavy with the 6th, which might work fine - I suppose. By the time they get around doing this, I'm worried that Boulez may be a bit too "poopy" for the finale of M7. I wish they would give the 7th to Jansons as well (or Barenboim, or anybody "zippy" with the finale). I like the idea of a Jansons M8.

One last minor grumbling: I wish they'd move beyond Cooke, and try a more adventurous performing version of the 10th.
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: John Kim on July 16, 2009, 08:09:55 PM
Oops, they are giving M7 to Boulez :-[. A couple years ago Jansons delivered a magnificent M7th that in my book still ranks as the greatest M7th ever. As for the Ninth, Haitink will be on the podium. Interesting :).

John,
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: barry guerrero on July 16, 2009, 08:46:26 PM
"A couple years ago Jansons delivered a magnificent M7th    .    .    . 

I'm hoping that there will eventually be an RCO Live recording of that issued, as the Chailly/RCOA one is just too slow for almost the entire duration.
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: mahlerei on July 17, 2009, 09:08:26 AM
Hmm, I've never been convinced by Jansons' Mahler, live or on record. I still haven't listened to the Zinman M7 as I'm awaiting delivery of a new SACD player.

As for Haitink in M9 I could never understand why his Philips recording was so highly regarded either.

Gosh, I am a grumpy old sod this morning :(
Title: Re: Mahlerfeest Box
Post by: sperlsco on July 20, 2009, 09:54:30 PM
...as the Chailly/RCOA one is just too slow for almost the entire duration.

...definitely the low point of a mostly fine cycle