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Title: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: John Kim on July 15, 2020, 07:36:03 PM
that runs 29'50" !!!


https://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Mahler-1860-1911_000000000019272/item_Symphony-No-4-Leif-Segerstam-Turku-Philharmonic-Essi-Luttinen-Ms_11029095
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: erikwilson7 on July 15, 2020, 07:51:26 PM
Holy... wow. And I thought Tilson Thomas' was too long at ~25 mins.

A M4 total time of 69:47

Leave it to Leif Segerstam to make Mahler's 4th as long as the 5th. Let's see if he can one-up Klemperer with M7. His Chandos M7 was already 1hr 28mins.

Anyone know how long Segerstam's M4 on Chandos was? I'm assuming this new one is longer.
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: James Meckley on July 16, 2020, 01:52:24 AM
Quote from: erikwilson7 on July 15, 2020, 07:51:26 PM
Anyone know how long Segerstam's M4 on Chandos was? I'm assuming this new one is longer.

The timings of Segerstam's M4 on Chandos are listed as:

I. 11:18
II. 10:32
III. 22:38
IV. 10:11
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: barryguerrero on July 16, 2020, 03:05:37 AM
11:18 for the first movement must be a mistake.
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: erikwilson7 on July 16, 2020, 03:12:26 AM
Even so, I want to hear a M4/I at 11:18  ;D

(that’s supposed to be a laughing-out-loud face)
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: James Meckley on July 16, 2020, 03:47:16 AM
Quote from: barryguerrero on July 16, 2020, 03:05:37 AM
11:18 for the first movement must be a mistake.

Sorry—my fingers (or my brain) slipped. Movement I is 18:11. :o
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: John Kim on July 16, 2020, 07:06:32 PM
It was a typo. The correct timing is 21'39".
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: erikwilson7 on July 16, 2020, 07:12:05 PM
Whew. I mean, I wanted to hear a 29’ adagio just to know what it sounds like, but I’m more inclined to check out the recording now that it’s less perverse.
Title: Re: Segerstam's new Mahler 4th has a record breaking Adagio
Post by: barryguerrero on July 16, 2020, 10:13:37 PM
But John, the link you provide for HMV Japan does indicate 29-something!!!