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Title: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: John Kim on June 20, 2021, 08:11:28 PM
I've listened to Yannick Nezet-Seguin's Philadelphia Mahler Eighth in 24 bit 48 kHz. It has the GRANDIOSET ending to Part II. ever captured on records and that pretty much sums up the entire performance. It is beautifully proportioned and structured, sung and played with the grand climaxes in Part I. & II. extremely well executed. 😎

Gustavo Dudamel's new recording with LAPO, on the other hand, strives for a direct, unaffected interpretation in excellent sound.

I find both accounts quite delicious and fascinating musically and in every sense.

Relish Mahler 8th!!
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: waderice on June 21, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
John,

Though I have just the 16-bit, 41.1 mHz CD of YNS' Philadelphia M8 as my sole souvenir of my presence at that live performance in Verizon Hall, Philadelphia, it would be GREAT to have it in the format you just listened to in 24-bit, 48 kHz.  Where did you get that high resolution version?

Wade
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: ChrisH on June 21, 2021, 06:09:57 PM
John,

Though I have just the 16-bit, 41.1 mHz CD of YNS' Philadelphia M8 as my sole souvenir of my presence at that live performance in Verizon Hall, Philadelphia, it would be GREAT to have it in the format you just listened to in 24-bit, 48 kHz.  Where did you get that high resolution version?

Wade
https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/8713836--mahler-symphony-no-8

There you go, Wade.
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: waderice on June 22, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
Thanks, Vehemence!

Wade
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: John Kim on June 23, 2021, 05:51:25 PM
In terms of sonics Dudamel is a clear winner. Although YNS M8th is a wonderful performance its dynamic range is constricted particularly in the coda of Part II.

John
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: barryguerrero on June 23, 2021, 06:38:28 PM
?   .   .    .   on my player, the end to Part II on N-S.'s M8 keeps expanding and expanding like almost no other version I've owned. If that weren't the case, I never would have endorsed it from the start. I seriously don't understand all the complaints about the sound. It works very well on my equipment.
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: Russell on June 27, 2021, 02:25:54 AM
The YNS is also available in 96/24 at ProStudioMasters (https://www.prostudiomasters.com/album/page/51999) as well as at HDtracks.

Listening to the Dudamel (also 96/24) for the first time now (in the middle of Part II), and so far I think his tempos are fine, if a little on the brisk side.  Not overly so, though.  The soloists, though, sound pretty awful--the men especially.  The sound quality is a bit strange, with the soloists sounding like they're in a different acoustic than the orchestra and chorus.  Just my very first impressions.......
Title: Re: Two M8ths by YNS & Dudamel: a summary
Post by: barryguerrero on June 27, 2021, 03:15:11 AM
Russell, I felt much the same. I like the contrapuntal clarity to Dudamel's Part I. I'm not crazy about his Part II. Then again, we have his other 'symphony of a true thousand' performance for a very good Part II.