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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Bernstein/Orch. de Paris M7th (1981)

« Last post by barryguerrero on January 21, 2026, 09:18:06 PM »

John, just to answer your first question - which I'm guessing you weren't being serious about - Bernstein recorded a number of French items in Paris. Nearly all of them were really good. He did Symphonie Fantastique; an all Darius Milhaud disc (including "La Creation du Monde" and "Le Boeuf sur la Toit"); Franck: Symphonie in D-minor; Roussell: Sym. #3, as well as the 'usual suspects' from Maurice Ravel. The Milhaud disc is excellent. I wish he had re-recorded the Saint-Saens "Organ" Symphony in Paris.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Bernstein/Orch. de Paris M7th (1981)

« Last post by shawn on January 21, 2026, 05:50:32 PM »

Many thanks for this link!  This is a very tough recording to find.

I don't know... its a very solid M7, but I don't think its much better than 1965 or 1985. The sonics are pretty good, certainly easier on the ear than Bernstein in 1985.

I used to be firmly devoted to Bernstein's Mahler Sevenths. Lately I found myself drawn more towards Kubelik (Audite) and the various Haitinks. Some time ago I discovered the Van Beinum, and believe it or not, I find it to be the best M7! The sound isn't perfect, far from it, but it's certainly listenable. But that's me, I like historic recordings, the orchestras of yesteryear are often much more unique than is the case today, or at least that's how I feel. Even the Concertgebouw of today has a much more international sound...

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Bernstein/Orch. de Paris M7th (1981)

« Last post by John Kim on January 19, 2026, 04:47:24 AM »

What the hell was he doing in Paris? OMG, Lenny conducted Mahler 7th in Paris! 😅

Who knew the French orchestra could play Mahler this well, this idiomatically with complete ease and elan? 😀 

Interpretively, it may well be the BEST of all Bernstein's M7ths. Lenny is as driven and fired up as ever but he is more flexible and supple than usual giving the piece more nuance and subtlety (which weren't necessarily Lenny's fortes^). Sound is pretty decent stereo.

This is a GREAT Mahler Seventh!

You can download the file here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/l3a8r0i5ldaxxcf/M7LBPAR.zip/file

John

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Yet another Mahler release coming soon - Jarvi/TOZ M7th March 13th

« Last post by barryguerrero on January 19, 2026, 03:46:35 AM »

Yes, I saw that. I didn't want to post a link of it until the samples were there to hear. I was hoping M3 would be next, but I'll certainly check out this M7. I have the DVD of P. Jarvi/Frankfurt R.S.O. doing M7, coupled with M8. It's very good. If I'm not totally happy with this remake, I may just stick with the DVD.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Yet another Mahler release coming soon - Jarvi/TOZ M7th March 13th

« Last post by John Kim on January 19, 2026, 12:25:44 AM »

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9843183--mahler-symphony-no-7

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: I'm seeing rumblings that Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M8 to be released early 2026

« Last post by John Kim on January 18, 2026, 11:39:46 PM »

26 Euro (=$30.16) for the 2 discs including everything is not bad^ Plz let me know when it arrives. I might order form them too^

John

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: I'm seeing rumblings that Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M8 to be released early 2026

« Last post by barryguerrero on January 18, 2026, 10:24:58 PM »

Through the Tonkunstler's website, they sold the set for 20 Euros. There were two options for shipping. I paid for the most expensive, 6 Euro option. Then I e-mailed them to see if the order went through OK. They told me they had already shipped it, so I guess the 6 Euro option suffices for the shipping. Coming from Austria, it's going to take a while. I don't know if the tariffs goons have to assess it as well. I shouldn't think so, but nothing surprises me today.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Barry's Best Mahler Recording For 2025 Award

« Last post by John Kim on January 18, 2026, 09:33:31 PM »

Scott

I am very glad you liked Bychkov M3rd. You mentioned the accuracy of Czech percussion in this recording. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. I've never heard another performance where all the percussion notes are so meticulously struck at the right moments. Here is a case in point: in the coda of III. there are two places where tam tam is supposed to strike 'da dan' (two 1/8 notes). Bychkov's is the only recording where I can hear them clearly and accurately at the right spots. I don't recall any other recordings getting them correct let alone audible.

John

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: I'm seeing rumblings that Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M8 to be released early 2026

« Last post by John Kim on January 18, 2026, 08:25:20 PM »

Throughout its 87 min. duration, it constantly reminded me that Mahler was, after all, a 'songful' composer. Under the direction of Yutaka Sado, the whole symphony SINGS; there were times when I was humming and singing along the music, especially where the singers entered. 😄

The coda of Part II., which is drawn out to a heavenly length by Sado, will CHOKE YOU, choke your body and soul!^ Never have the closing pages of Mahler 8th been played with more power, ecstasy, and elevation since Vaclav Neumann did with Czech Philharmonic orchestra some 45 years ago.

John

PS Throughout, organ is very strong and loud especially in climactic passages, e.g., the codas of Part I. & II.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: I'm seeing rumblings that Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M8 to be released early 2026

« Last post by John Kim on January 18, 2026, 08:11:33 PM »

Barry,

Please let us know how your ordering the physical CD went.

Did they indeed ship it to the States for the S&H fee listed on their site?

John