11
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: A chamber version of M10th to be released on BIS
« Last post by barryguerrero on February 08, 2019, 02:52:47 PM »Interesting.
News:
Welcome to the Gustav Mahler Board, the reincarnation of the former Mahler Discussion Forum and Mahler Board!
YOU MUST REGISTER AND LOG-IN TO POST!
Recent Posts
12
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: A chamber version of M10th to be released on BIS
« Last post by John Kim on February 08, 2019, 11:04:59 AM »It is a new completion by Michelle Castelletti.
13
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / A chamber version of M10th to be released on BIS
« Last post by John Kim on February 08, 2019, 11:03:52 AM »14
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Ivan Fischer's new release is Mahler Seventh.
« Last post by John Kim on February 08, 2019, 10:55:12 AM »Ivan Fischer's M3rd is excellent until 4th movt. and I am very disappointed with his V where he could have made the dissonant interlude stronger and darker. The Adagio is too short for my taste.
15
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Vanska/MO/BIS Mahler 2nd SACD
« Last post by John Kim on February 08, 2019, 10:53:13 AM »Barry,
Agreed.
Vanska's is the best Resurrection I have heard in recent years.
Tempos are broad but as you noticed Vanska is closer to Tennstedt than Maazel in distributing tempos and managing them. I really like the 1st movt, particularly the first few minutes as you said. The ending is great with organ, tam tam, bells all clearly and authentically audible.
I wish BIS had inserted several tracks for V so that I can jump to the conclusion. The same problem was with Fischer. Sigh ...
John
Agreed.
Vanska's is the best Resurrection I have heard in recent years.
Tempos are broad but as you noticed Vanska is closer to Tennstedt than Maazel in distributing tempos and managing them. I really like the 1st movt, particularly the first few minutes as you said. The ending is great with organ, tam tam, bells all clearly and authentically audible.
I wish BIS had inserted several tracks for V so that I can jump to the conclusion. The same problem was with Fischer. Sigh ...
John
16
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Vanska/MO/BIS Mahler 2nd SACD
« Last post by barryguerrero on February 06, 2019, 02:02:19 PM »I received the hard disc and played it today. It's the best Mahler 2 in my collection - completely sweeps the field for me. I love the clear recording of real deep bells. They not only sound good at the end, they're terrific at the 11:15 spot in the finale (during the march). All of the offstage brass is both clear and resonant. While not huge sounding, the organ has a really nice tone quality. My only minor complaint is that there are no extra tracks for the finale. Still, I really like this one. The first one minute of the opening movement is best I've ever heard - it really sets the mood. The scherzo is really good as well. To me, this is by far the best release among the three, so far, in this Minnesota/BIS cycle. I'm hopeful they'll do a 7th symphony that's as detailed as this one.
17
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Ivan Fischer's new release is Mahler Seventh.
« Last post by barryguerrero on February 05, 2019, 11:07:19 AM »Yes, I've been rather disappointed with Ivan Fischer's more recent releases. I thought M3 was pretty good, although I like his brother's even more. But Ivan's M5 and M9 fit precisely what you're describing. I'll still listen to it on Spotify. For the time being, I'll stick to his brother's M7.
18
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Ivan Fischer's new release is Mahler Seventh.
« Last post by Vehemence on February 05, 2019, 07:27:12 AM »Listened to this recording two times over the weekend and found it very disappointing. Initially I thought Fischer would do very good, to great work with this symphony. Instead he recorded a very bland, uninteresting Mahler 7. The first movement lacks any kind of intensity, tension or drive. It also comes across as very controlled. Nachtmusik I is well played, but lacks character and is much too quick for my tastes. The scherzo and 2nd nachtmusik are the best parts of the recording. Fischer seems to hit his stride here. His quicker tempos work much better. It also seems like he's letting his orchestra play, instead of trying to control them; this is a big problem with the first movement. The finale is pretty good, and he gives us the 'light of day' but again, I never felt like he really unleashed the orchestra and let them go for it.
Overall, this is more 'positive' Mahler. I like Mahler like this, but this recording lacks passion, drive and tension. It reminds me of Zinman, without the great musicality and architecture.
Overall, this is more 'positive' Mahler. I like Mahler like this, but this recording lacks passion, drive and tension. It reminds me of Zinman, without the great musicality and architecture.
19
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Ivan Fischer's new release is Mahler Seventh.
« Last post by Vehemence on February 01, 2019, 06:47:40 AM »This recording is available today on the Channel Classics website. It appear everywhere else at the end of March.
20
Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Ivan Fischer's new release is Mahler Seventh.
« Last post by barryguerrero on January 25, 2019, 01:31:42 PM »The excerpt sounds fast and average to me. When we did it in Redwood Symphony, every available percussionist who wasn't already covering something, shaked a strap of cowbells. One percussionist was even waving a rather large one. I also think big bells, cut acetylene tanks or bell plates should be used in the finale, in lieu of narrow chimes (holy doorbells). They don't use them because they're visually distracting, but acetylene tanks cut to pitch actually make terrific portable bells. Mahler wanted bells (tiefe glocken), not door bells.