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Offline nickmolland

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Klemperer M2 May 16 1971 (NOW WITH LINKS!)
« on: February 25, 2007, 05:53:59 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a copy of this concert? I see from the Fulop discography that it was issued on Arkadia in the early 1990s, and I guess it's not easy to find now. I was there (or at the repeat a few days later - I don't now recall) and have never forgotten it: Klemperer seemed to take an age to hobble from stageside door to podium, accompanied by a standing ovation, and then gave what I remember as the best M2 I have ever heard. Of course, memory may be playing tricks - which is why I want to hear it again!

It felt like a direct connection to Mahler, and an immense privelege, even at the time.
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Offline Toblacher

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 12:27:55 AM »
I've been looking for this recording for over 12 years!  It is the s-l-o-w-e-s-t  M2 according
to the Fulop Mahler Dicsography book (1995).  98 minutes!
(I usually like most works taken slowly).  I can't beleive it's never turned up on eBay.
If you ever find it, let us know!

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 04:20:10 PM »
It is the s-l-o-w-e-s-t  M2 according to the Fulop Mahler Dicsography book (1995).  98 minutes!

That is suprising, since his two EMI releases are single disc versions under 80 minutes!  I wonder if the referenced discography is a misprint?
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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 05:27:36 PM »
After he made that incredibly sloooooow M7 for EMI, an ultra-slow anything wouldn't surprise me.

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971 (NOW WITH LINKS!)
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 02:02:43 PM »
Thanks to another Board member (he hasn't told me yet whether or not I can give him public credit), here are the Rapidshare links for this performance:

http://rapidshare.com/files/18822516/M2Klemperer.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/18822674/M2Klemperer.part2.rar.html

Lord, it is slow! But slow in a way that signifies heroism and majesty and perfect control, not slow as in dragging. I wouldn't like to say whether this is the best M2 I've ever heard (what criteria would I use?), but it's well worth repeated attention in my view. Incidentally, both files seems to carry the entire work and (from the timings - I haven't listened to both yet) be identical. Don't know what that's all about. Even more incidentally, I am having trouble with Rapidshare, in that I've paid for a Premium service but am not being recognised - and of course my emails to Support go unanswered. Is it just me, or does anyone else have this problem?

Whatever, this M2 is outstanding - strange that the same man should record both the fastest (1951) and slowest (1971) performances, according to Fulop. I look forward to hearing others' comments....

Cheers,

Nick

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 03:57:24 PM »
Thanks for posting that Nick!!

Regarding Rapidshare...I had a similar problem after becoming a premium user, until I found there are two Rapidshare sites:

rapidshare.de & rapidshare.com

I had become a member of rapidshare.de, so thats why rapidshare.com wouldn't recognize me.  The two rapidshare sites are independant of each other.  So I basically signed up for rapidshare.com and know I use both. 

So check which rapidshare site you signed up for an account on, and check which rapidshare site you are trying to download from. If they are different that could be the reason.  I hope this helps :)

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971 (NOW WITH LINKS!)
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2007, 05:21:25 PM »
This performance by Klemperer is amazing really...I'll post more thoughts on this hopefully later tonight.  I've listened to it twice so far and it's already one of my favorites.

Thanks again for posting this!!!!

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Re: Klemperer M2 May 16 1971 (NOW WITH LINKS!)
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 04:29:35 PM »
I'm pretty excited about this recording.  I have always been a fan of slow Mahler (I also love Klemperer's M7 reading).  This performance is a kind dissection or surgery, as if Mahler is having an operation.  It is as if the score is being scrutinized for any last shred of possible meaning and subjectivity and cut out like a disease and placed under a microscope for study.  The interpetation is more from the viewpoint of Klemperer (with scapel in hand) rather than Mahler, but I find this a very moving performance...focused and strong, and very dark at the beginning, which largely persists until the Urlicht movement, which shines like the sun with the appearance of a human voice.  Klemperer's view with the Andante is perhaps the saddest of any recording I've encountered.  Klemperer seems to magnify the 'disease' under his microscope here and there is no cure.  The way the music fades at the end of the Andante, the way the strings somehow disappear is not unlike the 9th Symphony Adagio or the last bars of Das Lied Von der Erde.  The Scherzo makes me feel we have been left outside the operating room, with only a window to look into to witness a precedure unknown in our experience. 
 
The Finale really feels like a narrative epic...a convincing path to light from darkness.  The light, however, is reflected in sorrow.  There are moments when everything breaks down and even sounds like Ives at his most chaotic.  The percussion crescendo is very industrial and primal beyond description...it slowly stirs...the dead are drying to dig from the earth, and the struggle is heard in all it's passion...as if earth is hanging on to the dead.  Towards the end the performance actually reaches into the spiritual, which I didn't expect based on what I've already heard.  The last time I heard such an arresting M2 was when I first heard Scherchen's unique account.  Not everyone will dig this, but for me this is a performance to savor for special occasions.



Here is an interesting article:

Otto Klemperer - Behind every great conductor
By Norman Lebrecht / July 30, 2003


Klemperer and his daughter Lotte
   
I wonder whether any young woman today would do what Lotte did, and give up her life for the sake of her father and his art. Lotte was the only daughter of Otto Klemperer, the conductor who, more than any other, made Berlin a byword for musical modernism in the 1920s and London a benchmark for orchestral excellence in the 1960s.

He could not have achieved these transformat ions unaided. Klemperer suffered from a severe form of cyclothymic illness which, in manic phases, provoked arrest and disgrace, and in depressive mood, brought him close to self-destruction. Without a responsible relative in constant attendance, Klemperer could not have fulfilled his invaluable musical duties. Even now, 30 years after his death, every British orchestra contains players whose standards were set by Klemperer, and whose eyes glisten at the mention of his name.

The first to look after him was his long-suffering wife, Johanna - long-suffering because when Klemperer was on a high he was beset by satyriasis, recklessly pursuing every woman within arm's reach. Gustav Mahler's daughter, Anna, once found herself chased by him around a dining table. Knowing that he had been close to both her parents, she breathlessly sought to preserve dignity and friendship. "Dr Klemperer," she gasped, "in Bach's B-minor mass, rehearsal figure 48, is that top note F or F-sharp?" Klemperer stopped as if stunned and delivered a magisterial analysis of the work. Music was the only interest that could override his furious compulsions.

Johanna saw him through the glory years at Berlin's Kroll Opera, where he presented popular classics in radical reconstructions, along with new operas by Weill and Janaek, to an audience comprised of factory and office workers. What Klemperer did at the Kroll remains a utopian model for 21st century opera houses. It was, inevitably, anathema to the Nazis.

The family left Germany a month after Hitler seized power. Lotte was nine and a comfort to her father in the bewilderment of exile. "Dr Klemperer," said an orchestral administrator in Los Angeles, "you and I have become such good friends that from now on I'm gonna call you 'Otto'." "You may call," growled Klemperer, "but I vill not come."

In 1939 he underwent surgery for a brain tumour and emerged with one side of his face paralysed, his tongue atrophied and his behaviour even more erratic. Johanna refused to commit him to a mental institution, but Klemperer walked out on her, saying he needed a year's freedom. He went careering around the country with the wife of the Utah Symphony music director, Maurice Abravanel, leaving a trail of unpaid bills. Reported missing on the front page of the New York Times, he was arrested and displayed in the next day's papers behind bars. Released on bail, he faced a mob of reporters, with Lotte acting as mediator and interpreter. She was 17 and had already been thrust into her life's mission.

Most American orchestras, scandalised by Klemperer's conduct, crossed him off their books. After a concert in Los Angeles, he went walkabout and was found beaten up in a gutter. A 1947 tour of Europe was peppered with madcap incidents, winding up in Budapest where Klemperer took charge of the State Opera and Lotte flirted with communism until they were nudged out.

Back in America, he was blacklisted for serving on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain and refused a passport extension. In November 1954, he was holed up, flat broke, in a fleapit New York hotel when a young agent, chancing his luck, asked him to conduct a concert in Portland, Oregon. Klemperer balked at travelling 3,000 miles for a single gig, but Lotte and the agent fell "half in love" and she persuaded her father to take the date. It marked a turning point in post-war musical destiny.

In Portland, Klemperer ripped an epochal Beethoven Seventh out of the unbelieving fingers of provincial musicians, most of whom had never played it before. The agent, Ronald Wilford, made his name overnight and went on to become the mightiest commercial force in musical America. Klemperer was given a passport and flew to London, where the producer Walter Legge wanted him to conduct the Philharmonia, EMI's recording band.

In a city awash with orchestras-that played just about as well as required and seldom better, Klemperer fired the Philharmonia with an unEnglish excess of aspiration and self-belief. He conceived each work as a structural integrity, revealing its contours from the opening bars and giving musicians and listeners alike an extraordinary confidence in their comprehension of the work. Every concert seemed to have been programmed as an act of human necessity. At the end of his inaugural Beethoven cycle, the jubilation was so exuberant that the London County Council commissioned a bust of Klemperer from Jacob Epstein for the Royal Festival Hall, where it stands to this day.

He continued to court disaster, suffering near-fatal burns when his pipe caught fire in bed and he tried to extinguish it with a whisky flask. In the public eye he was brutally forthright, never more so than on John Freeman's Face To Face television programme. With London musicians he was alternately rough-tongued and paternal, handing out cigarettes to the ones who pleased him. When Legge disbanded the Philharmonia in 1964, Klemperer gave his allegiance to the players, investing them with his own rugged independence and securing the orchestra's survival.

None of this could have come about without Lotte's devotion. Her tongue could be as rough as his when dealing with the fixers of the record industry, but she had the charm and wit to ease most vicissitudes, never presuming to control his life. One morning, bringing the old man his breakfast tray, she found him in bed with a young woman. "This is my daughter, Lotte," grunted Klemperer by way of introduction, "and you - what did you say your name was?"

To feminists, Lotte's must appear a wasted life, a voluntary form of child sacrifice that postmodern times have made redundant. She died this month, aged 79, at her home outside Zurich, unknown beyond the backstage of concert halls and with few tributes to mark her passing.

Intellectual, attractive and formidably capable, Lotte could have made a very different life for herself. When I asked once whether she had ever considered it, she politely ignored my impertinence.

She had made a calculated career choice to be her father's helper, a role that was no less valid in her eyes than the heady ascent of women politicians, artists and CEOs. In 1954, Lotte wrote that her parents' plight had "made me resentful, furious and ... ambitious". By facilitating her father's fulfilment, her achievement will resonate for ever on record and in our concert life. The Philharmonia will soon announce a musical tribute in memory of Lotte Klemperer.

 

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