DH gives 10/10 to Haitink/CSO/CSO-Resound Bruckner 7th (OOT)

[John Kim]

"This is only Haitink's third(!) recording of this symphony. Happily, he never remade it with the Vienna Philharmonic, having recorded it twice with the Concertgebouw. His first recording, the one that always has been reissued in the complete symphonies box and also as a Philips Duo, is a swift, somewhat pallid performance, shallowly recorded to boot. The later one, from 1978, just missed the digital era but remains one of the great performances. Not surprisingly it has been ignored by Philips in favor of its inferior predecessor. One of the most noteworthy qualities of that performance was the climax of the Adagio (with a resplendent cymbal crash), so perfectly timed that I never imagined I'd hear it repeated. Haitink does it again here.


In fact, this live performance is every bit as stunningly played as its 1978 predecessor. The tempos are just a hair more measured in the first movement and finale, but always supple, fluid, and perfectly judged between sections (and certainly not slow by today's standards). The transition from the second to third subjects in the first movement offers one example, and the continuation of the Adagio's main theme (after the "non confundar" motive from Bruckner's Te Deum) provides another. This being Chicago, the brass sound spectacular, but so do the strings and winds. In short, there is absolutely nothing here to criticize. When the results are this outstanding, it's pointless to complain that Haitink keeps recording the same music over and over. In the final analysis, a great performance must be its own justification, and this is a great performance. Happily, the sonics allow the music to leap from the speakers with the same vibrancy and impact as the interpretation itself, and the audience is very silent. Wonderful!"

I have never heard Haitink's B7ths so it's surprising to read DH's rave review after his lukewarm reaction to Haitink's M3rd with the same orchestra. My favorites remain with Bohm/VPO/DG, Karajan/VPO/DG, and Maazel/BPO/EMI, but this new recording may be worth looking for.

John,

[akiralx]

I really wanted to  like this but most reviews have been lukewarm so I haven't got it. 

DH is right that the 1978 Concertgebouw version is great, as is the VPO/Karajan one, probably HvK's best Bruckner.

[barry guerrero]

I have it, and don't think it's anything particularly special at all. I prefer the Barenboim with the same orchestra: CSO.

Barry

[Ben]

I've been listening to this lately and I quite like it.  The orchestra plays superbly and I'm not bored by Haitink's conducting.  It's a well conceived performance and expertly crafted, IMO.  There are quite a few personal touches I like, but would maybe keep me from listening on a regular basis.  Perhaps it's more of an event than a regular recording.  I guess it was recorded 'live' though.

I like the Barenboim/CSO as well, but I think the Haitink is a little more refined and keeps the CSO within some boundaries.  The brass are great on the Haitink, but never over do it as they could on the Barenboim (not that I really mind).

I'll probably pick up the SACD version eventually.

Ben

[akiralx]

I ended up getting the Haitink and it isn't anything special, but well played.  The orchestra though just don't seem to have the sonority or plain heft for Bruckner.  I've already culled it to be honest. 

I've got the Osaka/Asahina B2 SACD coming soon, will be interesting - I've got Asahina in M6 but don't really like it though.

[barry guerrero]

I've been listening to the Haitink/CSO B7 at work. I think it's really sort of a snooze, and greatly prefer the Barenboim. Then again, I'm just not a fan of James Mallinson produced recordings. I just doesn't sound good to me. It's wide from left to right, but very little front to back depth. In Orchestra Hall, it always sounds like EVERYBODY is playing in the front row. I think Mallinson's work sucks, and would enjoy telling him just that (I'm sure he's a great person).

Barry

[Ben]

It's wide from left to right, but very little front to back depth. In Orchestra Hall, it always sounds like EVERYBODY is playing in the front row. I think Mallinson's work sucks, and would enjoy telling him just that (I'm sure he's a great person).

Barry

I agree with you there.  There is no depth to the recording and there is little reverberation; quite dead.

Ben

[cilea]

From the recent Stereophile:

"Also come April, CSO Resound returns to SACD via Bernard Haitink conducting Mahler's Symphony 6. That will bring the number of SACD versions of Mahler's most harrowing symphony to at least seven, including those conducted by Zander, Tilson Thomas, Eschenbach, Abbado, Jansons, and Fischer. So much for complaints that SACD is a dead format offering little to listen to."

http://www.stereophile.com/news/020208classical/

[sbugala]

From the recent Stereophile:

"Also come April, CSO Resound returns to SACD via Bernard Haitink conducting Mahler's Symphony 6. That will bring the number of SACD versions of Mahler's most harrowing symphony to at least seven, including those conducted by Zander, Tilson Thomas, Eschenbach, Abbado, Jansons, and Fischer. So much for complaints that SACD is a dead format offering little to listen to."

http://www.stereophile.com/news/020208classical/

 I've given up on him doing another M9, unless he has and I'm unaware of it.  Mind you, I carp about conductors who re-record the same stuff over and over again. BUT...officially, he's only done the Ninth one previous time on disc. Is this his third official recording of the Sixth?

[John Kim]

Haitnk has officially recorded M6th three times including the upcoming Chicago one. In the case of M9th, he recorded three times, the first with RCO in late 60's, the second with RCO again from a live concert in mid 80's, the third with ECYO from a live concert in early 90's. All three recordings are (or were) available on Philips. Yet, there is no Haitink/BPO or Haitink/VPO M9th.

John,

[Leo K]

This new Haitink M6 is great news!!!  If it is as good as his live LSO from 2002, never released.

--Todd