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Offline barryguerrero

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #135 on: September 22, 2017, 07:14:00 AM »
The Ozawa/J. Norman M3 is almost worth the price of admission by itself, it's THAT good. The 7th is also really good, but does need more deep bells and cowbells at the end of the finale. As John stated, the 8th is superb, but is also wanting in the sonics department. One could do a whole lot worse (Solti, for example). I agree that you'd want the Saito Kinen (Sony) remake of the "Resurrection" symphony as a supplement.
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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #136 on: September 22, 2017, 08:26:16 PM »
Ok - I'll try it out. Not that I need any more Mahler sets, but maybe having not heard any of these recordings for 10-20 years I will listen to them differently. Need more shelf space...

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #137 on: September 26, 2017, 12:44:26 AM »
I think you can hear much of the Ozawa cycle for free on Youtube - maybe Spotify too.

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #138 on: September 28, 2017, 09:45:04 AM »
As announced when the First was released, here it is:

Gustav Mahler: Symphony No. 8

Utah Symphony; Mormon Tabernacle Choir;

Thierry Fischer

Live Recording (February 2016), Reference Recordings: FR-725, 2 SACDs

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gustav-Mahler-Tabernacle-Reference-Recordings/dp/B075VWFRG5/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1506590499&sr=1-1&keywords=B075VWFRG5

Concerning Ozawa: I think his cycle is very good and his Japanese remakes of First, Second and Ninth are even excellent. In Italy, the complete set as shown in the picture posted by AZContrabasson is available (since 2013) at 38 Euros. My suggestion to save some money is to look for a recording in the country where it has been originally released (hoping that customs fee will not get in the way of the saving).

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This thread is meant to be a repository of all recordings released in 2017, so that people interested in new releases can find them just browsing in one thread. I suggest to people interested in discussing particular recordings, squabbling about Adagietto's tempi, insulting Solti an so on, to open specific threads.

Offline barryguerrero

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #139 on: September 29, 2017, 04:49:14 PM »
Very neutral cover art. But I prefer that to yet another photo of the conductor (which is useless). I know nothing about Thierry Fischer or most of the soloists employed, so I have no idea what to expect. Obviously, sound quality and the adult choirs will be spectacular.

Offline brunumb

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #140 on: September 29, 2017, 11:06:16 PM »
The total playing time is 79:41 so why is it on two discs?  Is there a different upper limit for Hybrid SACDs?

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #141 on: September 30, 2017, 07:52:59 PM »
Theoretically, you can put almost 4 hours on an SACD only disk - but I've never seen it done. The dual-layer disk time limit is going to be restricted by the CD layer which is supposedly 80 minutes, so at 79:41 that's really getting close. One reason for using two disks is that some older players just cannot handle that long of a cd. I had a Panasonic years ago that burped when disk length was over 75 minutes. Nowadays, there are disks that exceed 80 minutes, going to 81, 82 and such. But it's risky. If everyone had state-of-the-art players it wouldn't be an issue. Another reason is that two disks allows them to charge more, if not double, to help defray the costs of recording.

I'm glad to see the Utah cycle appearing, and especially on RR - they generally have spectacular sound, although their older HDCD format to my ears sounds a lot better than even SACD. But try getting an HDCD player these days! It's also kind of sad that apparently we won't be getting a complete cycle from Pittsburgh. Every one of the recordings Honeck made there so far has been superb.

Offline waderice

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #142 on: October 01, 2017, 11:14:42 AM »
But try getting an HDCD player these days!

There aren't many made (both the disks and the player), but a universal format disk player will usually have the circuit programming to play the HDCD disks.  My particular model is by Yamaha.  It'll play any disk format made, except for DSD.

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #143 on: October 02, 2017, 03:02:50 AM »
My Marantz "universal" player plays SACD, mp3 and a lot more - but not HDCD. I had an Oppo player that would decode HDCD, but they no longer make a unit supporting that format. The regular red book cd layer sounds great, but that HDCD decoding was really terrific. Gone with the wind, kind of like getting Dolby Surround decoded these days. But as I age, and my hearing isn't what it was 30 years ago, maybe it doesn't matter too much anymore... :P

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #144 on: October 16, 2017, 10:56:16 AM »
Another Fifth is going to be released, this time by Harmonia Mundi. The Gürzenich-Orchester Köln is conducted by François-Xavier Roth.

https://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-5-Fran%C3%A7ois-Xavier-Roth/dp/B075V237HP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1508150574&sr=1-1&keywords=B075V237HP

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphonie-No-5/dp/B075V237HP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1508150589&sr=1-1&keywords=B075V237HP

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Thierry Fischer recorded an excellent First with Utah:

https://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-1-Titan/dp/B012SOT6XC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1508150500&sr=1-1&keywords=B012SOT6XC

I enjoyed especially the Finale.

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The latest Pittsburgh/Honeck release is Shostakovich's Fifth:

https://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Symphony-No-Barber-Adagio/dp/B073FFSJ98/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1508151196&sr=1-1&keywords=B073FFSJ98

So far, Pittsburgh/Honeck's recordings for Reference Recordings ranged from the excellent to the extraordinary.

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Dear AZ-C,

in 2005 BIS released the complete organ music of J. S. Bach (played by Hans Fagius) on 5 SACD (20h, 8min 21sec) for the price of two:

https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Complete-Organ-Hans-Fagius/dp/B0009MZ5S6/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1508151021&sr=1-1&keywords=B0009MZ5S6

Of course they can only be played on SACD player.

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #145 on: October 16, 2017, 02:35:01 PM »
The Xavier-Roth Mahler 5 will find it's way into my collection. His first with Baden-Baden was very, very good and not much talked about.
Thanks for the find, GL.

Offline barryguerrero

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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #146 on: October 16, 2017, 11:04:26 PM »
My guess - and it's ONLY a guess - is that the X-R. M5 will be 'musically' no better than the Markus Stenz, but will probably be better recorded.

I have great hopes for the T. Fischer/Utah M8, but they're just that: hopes.
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Re: Forthcoming & New Releases 2017
« Reply #147 on: November 07, 2017, 06:33:08 AM »
Adam Fischer & Dusseldorf Symphony Orchestra: here it comes the First (I. 15:31/ II. 7:43/ III. 10:04/ IV. 19:51):

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Mahler-1860-1911_000000000019272/item_Symphony-No-1-Adam-Fischer-Dusseldorf-Symphony-Orchestra_8353846

 

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