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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: OT: Shostakovich 8th w/ Haitink/BRSO on BR Klassik

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 13, 2024, 12:49:32 AM »

Hey guys, I'd love to hear some feedback on this recording. I know it's off-topic, but I think there's enough Mahler in S8 to make it almost topical. Personally, I love this performance. It's a bit slower and heavier than usual, but it just rings true to me. Try to give it a listen and let me know what you think. It's on Spotify and I'm sure on other streaming services as well.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: What next? . . .

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 11, 2024, 04:28:28 AM »

Oh, thanks Eric. I wonder if "19 versions" of Bruckner would jive with what Bill Carragan would say. I'll bet that according to his 'Red Book', there are probably at least 30 different versions. Anyway, that whole topic is of only slight interest to me. I guess it beats arguing endlessly over conductors.

I see that David Hurwitz had labeled the Solti/C.S.O. M8 as a 'reference recording'. Too bad there's so little real music in his 'big stick' approach to the work.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: What next? . . .

« Last post by erikwilson7 on March 09, 2024, 08:27:01 PM »

I don't know the answer to those, and I wish I did. That, and more evidence of P. Järvi's upcoming Mahler. But I want to point out a couple of other projects that I'm following (there is a lot of Bruckner to follow right now due to his bicentenntial):

• Markus Poschner's Bruckner cycle of all 19 symphony versions on Capriccio.
• Simon Rattle's Bruckner with London (hit or miss so far).
• Paavo Järvi's Bruckner with the Tonhalle.
• Dausgaard's Bruckner with Bergen on BIS (some have disliked this; I find it interesting).
• Storgårds' Shostakovich with the BBC Phil on Chandos (again, some have disliked this; it's fun so far).
• Noseda's Shostakovich with the LSO (I think this is mostly fantastic so far).

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: OT: Shostakovich 8th w/ Haitink/BRSO on BR Klassik

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 09, 2024, 01:21:09 AM »

Hey guys, this is up on Spotify now. The sound quality is quite good. Big tam-tam smashes.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / What next? . . .

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 08, 2024, 08:44:10 PM »

You guys sometimes have the pulse of things. Any idea when we may see the final installment of the Vanska/Minnesota cycle (M3)?      .     .     .    .   How about the next installment in Bychkov/C.P.O.? .    .    .    .   Those are the last of what I care about at this point.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Rattle/BRSO M6 is extraordinary, and the finale to the Sado M7 is really wild

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 01, 2024, 07:01:26 PM »

Amazon is now saying that the Haitink S8 is being released on the 15th.

Let me know what you think of the Sado M7. I thought the second movement (first Nachtmusik) was really good. Much of the finale is very good as well.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Rattle/BRSO M6 is extraordinary, and the finale to the Sado M7 is really wild

« Last post by John Kim on March 01, 2024, 05:45:54 PM »

Comparison with Rattle's excellent account with BPO is inevitable. Precision and virtuosity of BPO vs. rich sonority and atmosphere of BRSO. I am actually spoiled by the former but wouldn't be without the latter either.

Barry,

Where is Haitink/BRSO Shosy 8th being streamed? I can't find it.

John

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Rattle/BRSO M6 is extraordinary, and the finale to the Sado M7 is really wild

« Last post by barryguerrero on March 01, 2024, 09:33:29 AM »

As always with Rattle, the Scherzo to his new BRSO recording is fantastic. But really, it's all really good. Good cowbells in the quiet parts too. Rattle leaves out the third hammer-stroke this time. I'm afraid I'll have to own a copy of this.

The Sado/Tonkunstler M7 is a different beast. As typical of Viennese performances of M7, they're not afraid to allow Mahler's more strange sound effects to sound a bit weird. I kind of like that. Even though Sado's Scherzo reaches out to 11 minutes, it doesn't sound slow somehow. The finale is very good. If anything Sado actually stretches the finale's final peroration somewhat too much. Still, see what you think. These are both up on Spotify.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Big release day this Friday (03/01/2024)

« Last post by barryguerrero on February 28, 2024, 08:27:21 PM »

I hope you report back on your impressions. I'm afraid I'll like all three, and will want to support all three with a purchase that I don't really need.    .   .   .   .   Actually, if necessary, I'll choose just one of two possible items to purchase, in an effort to support BR Klassik.

I have the D. Harding/BRSO M6 from BR Klassik. I'm pretty satisfied with that one for an A/S version. I'm wondering how much different, or 'better' this Rattle one might be. The start of the first movement from the brief sample sounded a tad 'mushy' to my ears. But then again, Rattle stretches the first movement to beyond 24 minutes. I think his sound quality may be better than it is on the Harding. I'm hoping I won't end up wanting to own them both!   .    .   .   .   .  I also have the Adam Fischer for an A/S plus three hammer-strokes version.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Big release day this Friday (03/01/2024)

« Last post by John Kim on February 28, 2024, 07:19:13 PM »

Good!

Indeed, I find Sado's M4th extremely to my liking: he adopts lots of rubato throughout quite deliciously^

My fingers croseed for the all three releases this weekend^

John