Harding/SWRSO Mahler 7th (live)

[John Kim]

I'm sure it has been archived for a furure CD release.

https://sverigesradio.se/avsnitt/mahlers-7a-med-radiosymfonikerna?fbclid=iwar2jjertujmoyejodf-50nb_nhioc0xoxcnglahe1u3uuxseneiifot_oyq

The symphony starts at around 48 min. into it.

John

[John Kim]

This Seventh may well be Daniel Harding's BEST outing in Mahler thus far.  76 min. of glorious music making!

John

[barryguerrero]

Awesome. Thank you John. Yeah, it seems the 'younger generation' are better attuned to Mahler 7 - none of that nonsense about the 7th being the bastard stepchild of Mahler symphonies. They know that's rubbish.

[John Kim]

The sound on the link is fantastic, almost of a CD quality^

Enjoy!

John

[barryguerrero]

Not a fan. This sounds breathless and lacking in depth, compared to Harding's performance of M7 with the BRSO just months ago. A measurement of the timings confirmed my suspicions. They look like this: I -19:25; II - 15:40; III - 8:55 (like Abbado); IV - 12:05; V - 16:15. Why so fast when Harding's two existing Mahler recordings on Harmonia Mundi are nowhere so 'breathless'?

I would buy a CD or download of Harding's M7 from Munich, but not this one - unless they do a studio recording with somewhat more broad tempi (except for the second movement, which seemed fine as it was).

[John Kim]

Barry

i thought you said 'awesome'?^

John

[John Kim]

Im pretty sure the upcoming CD release will contain a different performance.

John

[barryguerrero]

My "awesome" was in response to your words, John. I hadn't listened to it yet. We shall see. I wish BR Klassik would issue their Harding M7, but they're probably saving the 7th for Rattle.

Barry

[John Kim]

Barry

Here are the correct timings of the Harding/SWRSO M7th:

21'35", 15'52", 9'04", 12'09", 16'54"

Total = 76 min.

John

[barryguerrero]

That's not what I got, and I measured them off myself. I didn't include the dead space after any movement. Regardless, I wasn't crazy about it. It'll be a 'wait and see' situation for me, regarding any possible recording. I still liked the BRSO one more.

[John Kim]

Barry,

Do your measurement again. The 1st movt is 21 min 35 seconds. ^_^

John

[barryguerrero]

No John, I'm really not interested enough to bother. I'll take your word for it. As I said, I'll 'wait and see' for if and when it finally turns up on Spotify. I'm actually quite happy with the Vanska, where the first movement is a bit longer, SOOOOoooo, that when the main theme of the first movement shows up towards the end of the finale, Vanska brings it in at a slower, not faster tempo. To me, that makes a whole lot of sense.

I thought the first Nocturne (second movement) was best one on this Harding performance.

[John Kim]

Just for the record, both of Harding's M7ths with BRSO and SRSO run 76 min.

John

[barryguerrero]

Fair enough. Whatever the reasons, the BRSO one made a lot bigger impression on me. If HMU issues the SwRSO 7th, I'll check it out on Spotify. For the mean time, I'm looking forward to the Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M7, as well as an eventual Bychkov/Czech Phil. one. I imagine someday there will be a Jaap van Zweden one. A Dudamel remake with the N.Y. Phil. would be nice too.

[erikwilson7]

Don’t forget about the eventual Paavo Järvi one, if the alleged news of him doing a cycle is true.

How is he with the 7th?