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Offline Don

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2008, 03:00:49 AM »
Thanks for all the recommendations and wonderful discussion on this fascinating work. I have ordered the MTT SO version to start and will progress to others as time passes along.
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Offline mike bosworth

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 04:36:08 AM »
Really fascinating; that could sort of throw us back to Alpsman's question as to why everyone "must" perform or is performing Mahler today. Who is (are) conducting, I'm curious -- local forces?

And you are of course right, Yale not Princeton. Alfred Rose was that nephew (son of Arnold).

That is exactly the question I would have for the Vietnam National Symphony--why did they decide that they had to do a Mahler cycle?  The works are clearly difficult for the musicians and completely unfamiliar to the local people, and the program materials handed out at the M5 and M6 performances were terrible, with nearly no information about either Mahler or the symphonies being played.

There may be more appeal to foreign residents and tourists, who typically make up about a third of the audience in the 1911 French-era Opera House.  It's certainly interesting for a Mahlerian like myself, although as you might expect the level of playing leaves much to be desired.

The VNSO Mahler cycle is being conducted by a Japanese, Maestro Tetsuji Honna, and nearly all of the sponors of the cycle are Japanese organisations.  Most of the musicians are Vietnamese, although they were supplemented with Japanese harpists and Norwegian brass players in the M6.

Mike Bosworth
Hanoi

P.S. From what I have read, Rosé originally wanted to sell the 1880 DkL manuscript to the Library of Congress, with the attached condition that it never be performed.  This condition was (fortunately) rejected and the sale fell through.

Offline stillivor

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 10:38:08 AM »
Polarius, thanks for that. mine is the first on your list - 72773. The leaflet enclosed is for parts 2 and 3 (in turn, oddly misnumbered parts1 and II. 

Maybe someone was drunk(?) :-)

Mike, couldn't you contact the orchestra for an answer?

Mahler is played by amateut and youth orchestras in the UK.


   Ivor

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 12:12:29 PM »
mine is the first on your list - 72773. The leaflet enclosed is for parts 2 and 3 (in turn, oddly misnumbered parts1 and II. 

Maybe someone was drunk(?) :-)

But at the time this came out (in '69) these two parts (2nd and 3rd in the original three-movement version) may have still thought to be the actual "first" and "second" (of at least the performing version) since the original first ("Waldmaerchen") wasn't available yet (became so soon thereafter as noted above). Although, to cite someone's words of wisdom (Monty Python or Dennis Potter?), I can't remember, I must have been sober at the time.

-PT

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2008, 02:23:39 AM »

Mike, couldn't you contact the orchestra for an answer?


Hi Ivor,

I have twice tried to contact the VNSO through their public relations department.  The first time the response was 'thanks for your interest--don't call us, we'll call you'.  The second time the response was the silence of the tomb.  It is not really that surprising since this is still at its core an old-school socialist country that is suspicious of anyone on the 'outside' of a state-run process asking for a peek inside.

More recently I have contacted the conductor directly by e-mail and am hoping to at least hear back from him.

Mike Bosworth
Hanoi

Offline Dave H

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Re: Recommend a Das Klagende Lied
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2008, 01:16:23 AM »
That would be very interesting--I'm sure everyone appreciates your keeping us informed of Mahler performances in such an unusual setting. I know I sure do! Thanks!

Dave H

 

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