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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Pre-order of Vanska/BIS M3 is down to $26.31 @ Europdisc

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 23, 2024, 03:20:14 AM »

I'm not surprised. I'm guessing the number of plants that are actually manufacturing SACD hybrid discs is probably very, very small. The art work for an 'ecopack' may be a bit trickier too. It might also be that they want to stagger the release dates between the M3 - which I'm going to guess the preorders for are probably pretty small - and the complete cycle (for which there's probably more interest).

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Pre-order of Vanska/BIS M3 is down to $26.31 @ Europdisc

« Last post by waderice on May 23, 2024, 12:11:29 AM »

My order for the complete cycle from Amazon was $90.  To compete with Presto, it's likely that Amazon could charge less than what it was initially offered for.  Still, $90 isn't a bad price for a complete cycle.  We shall see.

Got a notice yesterday from Amazon that the original delivery date of the Vanska cycle has been pushed back from June 7 to June 21.

Wade

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Pre-order of Vanska/BIS M3 is down to $26.31 @ Europdisc

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 16, 2024, 05:39:24 PM »

Yes, and even with BIS using an 'eco-pack', I'm sure the shipping would almost make up any difference in price. Also, if Amazon mispriced it due to a mistake in the original release bulletin to retailers and wholesalers, it's quite possible Amazon may adjust that price before they actually ship it out. They're pretty good about that. I'm very certain that the original price quoted for the Mahler 3 was a mistake. We've seen both Presto and Europadisc adjust their price already.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Pre-order of Vanska/BIS M3 is down to $26.31 @ Europdisc

« Last post by waderice on May 16, 2024, 11:13:35 AM »

My order for the complete cycle from Amazon was $90.  To compete with Presto, it's likely that Amazon could charge less than what it was initially offered for.  Still, $90 isn't a bad price for a complete cycle.  We shall see.

Wade

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Pre-order of Vanska/BIS M3 is down to $26.31 @ Europdisc

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 16, 2024, 06:28:20 AM »

Europadisc is offering the Vanska/M.O./BIS M3 at $26.31. They're also showing the complete Vansaka cycle for barely over $70. I believe Europdisc charges less for shipping than Presto Classical does.

https://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/241125/Mahler_-_Symphony_no.3.htm?currency=2&country=6&gad_source=4&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaAtUax45GZ6cA500ccxGdrFQ5x6jowX1KAg1_HBUbm6TXTQME-HaYBoCeqYQAvD_BwE

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Friends visiting Vienna scored me a copy of Y. Sado/Tonkunstler M7!

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 10, 2024, 09:06:30 PM »

Friends visiting Vienna stopped in at the ticket office and 'Kultur-lounge' on Herrengasse 10 in downtown Vienna for the Tonkunstler Orchester. Looking on Google Maps, it looks like kind of a cute place. Anyway, they scored me a hard copy of the Mahler 7 with Yutaka Sado. Now I own their M2, M3 and M7. If I were a wealthy man, I would have asked them to at least get the M1 as well (which includes "Blumine").

I know they have an M6 in the works. And if they get a half-way decent cast of soloists, I think their M8 could be really something. We'll wait and see.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Liking the Jansons BR Klassik Mahler box just fine, so far

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 09, 2024, 09:08:59 PM »

I've heard Jansons' M5 before, and I do like it. I just wish he plowed on through where the trombones blast out their descending scale, and the strings begin chugging away - THEN slow down for the reprise of the brass chorale. I just prefer it that way (as written). But I have no issue with the rest of his M5. It's certainly more interesting than the Boulez one (Boulez's early BBC S.O. M5 was fabulous).

I've now listened to Janson's BRSO M3, and half of the M4. I like the M3 a lot, and the M4 is better than I thought it was. I like that he has the timpani pound on the final two notes of the first movement. I'm not sure I've ever noticed anyone else do that.

None of these are probably 'first choice' performances, but I just like the consistency of this cycle, both in terms of performances and sound. In that regard, it minds of the Bertini and Inbal cycles, only a bit lighter I suppose.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Liking the Jansons BR Klassik Mahler box just fine, so far

« Last post by erikwilson7 on May 09, 2024, 01:09:48 PM »

For me personally, I prefer Jansons in M2, M6, M7, and M9 to Boulez.

And yes, Boulez is wonderful with DKW. It's been my favorite recording of the work for some time.

I'm curious to see what you think of Jansons' M5 once you hear it again in full. While I disagree with how he plays with tempos at the end, it's actually pretty exciting in context with the rest of the symphony.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Liking the Jansons BR Klassik Mahler box just fine, so far

« Last post by barryguerrero on May 09, 2024, 05:57:12 AM »

No Eric, I've listened to several of them on Spotify. Part of my deciding to buy this set was due to my frustration that they have yet to release the M4, M6 and M8 from this cycle. Let's put it this way: so far, I'm liking the Jansons/BRSO ones more than the Boulez conterparts. I do have an sacd/cd hybrid of Boulez's M3, and a separate copy of his M6. The only other one I would want a separate copy of - once I sell off my Boulez box - is the Cleveland disc that has Boulez's "DKW" and M10 Adagio. That's a terrific disc.

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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: Liking the Jansons BR Klassik Mahler box just fine, so far

« Last post by erikwilson7 on May 08, 2024, 06:28:32 PM »

Thanks for the update, Barry. Will this be your first time hearing any of the nine symphonies from this cycle?

As far as BRSO recordings go, I still prefer the YNS one to Jansons', but the latter is certainly satisfactory to me; I can't complain, really.

The Jansons BRSO M2 got a bunch of polarizing criticism; some loved it, some thought it was terrible. I actually like it quite a bit, but I have the same reservations for your about the tams being too recessed. I've expressed this before, but for some reason this whole cycle's tams seem to be on the quieter side (except at the end of M8). They have body and deep presence (low end), but there's very little attack; they must be huge tams in that case. It's kind of the same situation as Stenz's cycle.