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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Sydney SO/Ashkenazy M3, M5, DLvdE
« Last post by akiralx on March 27, 2024, 11:12:11 AM »


Just picked up these three releases very cheaply and so far I am impressed with the M3. The playing is fine and the recording quality is excellent.

I heard Ashkenazy conduct a few times in Sydney but never in Mahler - I recall a 2012 performance of the Dvorak Cello Concerto when I was sitting in the choir seats, and an elderly man in the stalls suffered a medical emergency was skilfully evacuated by paramedics. VA was of course oblivious to this but his soloist (Jian Wang) saw it unfold a few metres in front of him.
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I suppose that that's one issue a person could make: the fact that the solo trumpet in the third movement is very much different than the more direct Russian approach.
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Not a big Shostakovich fan, but I took a listen anyway. That trumpet solo in the 3rd movement is very sexy. Sounds like big Bb rotary. Absolutely loved it. Overall, I really liked the atmosphere and the mysteriousness Haitink got from the BRSO. Enjoyed it quite a bit, and will probably check out a few more recordings of the 8th. 
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I thought overall it was an excellent performance. Clarity...but all the needed power. The second movement in particular revealed some cool stuff. There was a low note that I never paid that much attention to before that was startling enough that I thought it was a vehicle near me (car listening). As you said...great tam tam smashes.

I know Haitink didn't always have successes match initial tries...but I think this time he approached/tied it...and in the case of the second movement...improved.
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Hey guys, I'd love to hear some feedback on this recording. I know it's off-topic, but I think there's enough Mahler in S8 to make it almost topical. Personally, I love this performance. It's a bit slower and heavier than usual, but it just rings true to me. Try to give it a listen and let me know what you think. It's on Spotify and I'm sure on other streaming services as well.
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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: What next? . . .
« Last post by barryguerrero on March 11, 2024, 04:28:28 AM »
Oh, thanks Eric. I wonder if "19 versions" of Bruckner would jive with what Bill Carragan would say. I'll bet that according to his 'Red Book', there are probably at least 30 different versions. Anyway, that whole topic is of only slight interest to me. I guess it beats arguing endlessly over conductors.

I see that David Hurwitz had labeled the Solti/C.S.O. M8 as a 'reference recording'. Too bad there's so little real music in his 'big stick' approach to the work.
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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / Re: What next? . . .
« Last post by erikwilson7 on March 09, 2024, 08:27:01 PM »
I don't know the answer to those, and I wish I did. That, and more evidence of P. Järvi's upcoming Mahler. But I want to point out a couple of other projects that I'm following (there is a lot of Bruckner to follow right now due to his bicentenntial):

  • Markus Poschner's Bruckner cycle of all 19 symphony versions on Capriccio.
  • Simon Rattle's Bruckner with London (hit or miss so far).
  • Paavo Järvi's Bruckner with the Tonhalle.
  • Dausgaard's Bruckner with Bergen on BIS (some have disliked this; I find it interesting).
  • Storgårds' Shostakovich with the BBC Phil on Chandos (again, some have disliked this; it's fun so far).
  • Noseda's Shostakovich with the LSO (I think this is mostly fantastic so far).
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Hey guys, this is up on Spotify now. The sound quality is quite good. Big tam-tam smashes.
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Gustav Mahler and Related Discussions / What next? . . .
« Last post by barryguerrero on March 08, 2024, 08:44:10 PM »
You guys sometimes have the pulse of things. Any idea when we may see the final installment of the Vanska/Minnesota cycle (M3)?      .     .     .    .   How about the next installment in Bychkov/C.P.O.? .    .    .    .   Those are the last of what I care about at this point.
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Amazon is now saying that the Haitink S8 is being released on the 15th.

Let me know what you think of the Sado M7. I thought the second movement (first Nachtmusik) was really good. Much of the finale is very good as well.
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